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Between the poles of strong atheism and strict theism lies agnosticism, the argument that gods are very unlikely, but cannot logically be ruled out as utterly impossible. Agnosticism is considered a cautious, tentative and scientific approach to the question of the existence of gods - Stefan Molyneux's seminal book "Against the Gods?" makes a powerful case against agnosticism and for the positive acceptance of the nonexistence of supernatural beings. It is not rational to even entertain the possibility of the existence of irrational entities. We do not accept agnosticism about unicorns, fairies, square circles, pixies or the proposition that t

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Book Title: Against the Gods?: A Concise Guide to Atheism and Agnosticism
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Against the Gods?: A Concise Guide to Atheism and Agnosticism by Stefan Molyneux Book Review

Name: Jeremy G.
Rating: 2.0 out of 5 stars
Title: His arguments for the self-contradictory nature of the concept of ...
Date: Reviewed in the United States on April 27, 2017
Review: His arguments for the self-contradictory nature of the concept of deity depend on highly-controversial assumptions, and his defenses of these assumptions are very short and weak. For example, he claims that gods are portrayed as the most complex being imaginable (never mind the doctrine of divine simplicity; he probably doesn't know what that is), but they couldn't be complex because they are eternal and thus could never have evolved into this complex state. That is assuming that biological evolution is the only method to achieve complexity, and that an eternal being could never have evolved. However, eternal might mean everlasting, having no end. In that case, even granting these two assumptions (both of which are doubtful), a god might have evolved and become complex.

He assumes that consciousness is an effect of matter, but this is also highly controversial; it is one of the major questions of philosophy, and it certainly hasn't been 'solved' definitively one way or the other. Stefan doesn't spend much time defending this assertion, either.

He says that omniscience cannot coexist with omnipotence, since if an omnipotent being changed the future, it would invalidate its knowledge. There are different definitions of what omniscience might mean: It might that God knows everything past present or future, or that God knows everything until the present (since the future doesn't exist yet, God doesn't yet know it), or it might mean that God knows every possibility of what might happen in each chain of events and the precise result of alteration from every contingent action. He seems to choose the first description. In that case, we could substitute God changing the future 'invalidating' his knowledge to simply 'modifying' it without any problems; the god would still know everything, despite the fact that the subject of its knowledge had changed. Also, putting God outside time is not an ad-hoc response to this claim, as he portrays it. Even if it were, he does not show how this matter would be logically contradictory once God were outside time.

His argument that the only things that exist are what can be detected (physically). This is also highly controversial. Of course, a theist could simply say that gods revealed themselves in ways that are physically detectable. That aside, the existence of abstract objects and other nonphysical entities are still the subject of philosophical debate.

He might also point out the cliche that even theists are atheists because they deny all the gods but one. Disregarding the question of whether this is relevant or even makes sense, I think that this varies significantly from theist to theist. Some might decidedly deny the existence of all other so-called deities. Others might be agnostic regarding their existence -- maybe they exist, but there doesn't seem to be compelling evidence. Where are are the apologists for Zeus and Thor? Even if they did exist, are they more powerful/worthy of praise than the god(s) that the theist already believes in? Then, of course, there are polytheists, who really do believe in and actively worship multiple gods. There might be Christians, Buddhists, and Muslims who believe that Thor, Zeus, Hera, et cetera exist, but since the God of the Bible/Quran or Buddha is obviously much greater, the others are not really worth bothering with.

Name: Jonathan Roseland
Rating: 5.0 out of 5 stars
Title: I very privately became an atheist.
Date: Reviewed in the United States on September 10, 2019
Review: Eventually, I read Stefan Molyneux’s Against the Gods? and it finally cemented my reasons for leaving my religion.
Stefan asks the classic question: Why would a good God let bad things happen to good people?

Most religions explicitly state that helping others in need is morally good — think of the parable of the Good Samaritan in the New Testament. However, since gods do not exist, and so cannot intervene, religions have the rather challenging task of explaining why their “moral” God does not help those in need. If it is immoral for travelers on the road to ignore a bleeding man, when it will cost them both time and resources to help him, is it not infinitely more immoral for God to refrain from helping, when it will cost God neither time nor resources, since He has an infinity of both? (p. 36)

Stefan argues that Agnosticism is a weak intellectual cop-out, Agnosticism is kind of just a politically correct position that people take who haven’t really thought things through and are afraid of offending the faithful.

Agnosticism is a relatively modern phenomenon; avoiding the question of God’s existence is nothing new, of course, but agnosticism attempts to hook into a lot of science, particularly quantum physics, string theory and other multidimensional theoretical models. (p. 63)
Historically, the word “God” has never meant, “things that may exist in other dimensions of the multiverse, as described by modern physics.” (p. 63)
No, let’s not empty the word “God” of its true and original meaning, which was a cosmic and spiritual father who created the universe, breathed life into mankind, burns the wicked and saves the innocent, and so on. This meaty and monstrous superman, this thunderbolt-hurling patriarch of our dim and brutal histories, this frustrated and enraged slaughterer of rebels and sceptics — this fearful and omnipotent beast should not be reduced to some pale and conceptual ghost hiding out in the dim theoretical alleys between the atoms. (p. 64)

Thus I very privately became an atheist.

Name: Rennyrij
Rating: 3.0 out of 5 stars
Title: Read this book - but keep hold of some common sense, too.
Date: Reviewed in the United States on October 3, 2015
Review: In some places the author hits the nail on the head, such as, 'telling a child that "Jesus died for your sins" is a form of child abuse'. In others, he shows as much presumption and prejudice as those he accuses of presumption and prejudice. The book is worth reading, but with the understanding that there is definitely a bit of flawed and/or presumptuous thinking, and you are going to need to supply some of your own common sense to bring the subjects into balance. For instance, he treats taxes as though they were willful theft by "the government", not giving the full story that, (a) left to ourselves, we would not pay taxes, (b) we citizens ARE the government, and (c) if we don't set up a tax base, we are not going to have the amenities we need and have grown accustomed to, like clean water and paved roads. You are going to need to bring more of yourself into reading this book than you will to most books. Still, there are some valid points that have not necessarily shown up elsewhere.